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Reader Question Day #17 – American Gods, THE THIRD SOUL, and worldbuilding

Manwe asks:

Would you ever consider doing one (a world guide) for one of your own series? Or perhaps I should phrase that differently…as an author yourself, a creator of worlds, would you like to have done something like those (even if you have no actual plans to ever do any)?

Probably not. My general inclination is to forge ahead with new books, rather than to go back and rework old material endlessly.  Also, I’ve felt that overbuilding one’s world is limiting – this is why the final STAR TREK TV series eventually went off the air, in my opinion. It got crushed by the weight of thirty years of accumulated continuity. J.J. Abrams was wise to reboot, in my opinion.

The closest I’d come is an omnibus edition of the DEMONSOULED or THE GHOSTS series when I’ve written enough books – I’d most likely write a bonus novella and put it at the back to sweeten the deal.

That said, doing bits and pieces of worldbuilding background might make for good blog material. Like, a “Locations of DEMONSOULED” series, with little 300 to 500 word snippets describing places like Castle Cravenlock or Arylkrad or Mount Tynagis. I may have to think on that…

You compared it to “American Gods”, I have heard of the book but never read it myself, any good?

It’s a very interesting book, but I don’t think you’d like it. It’s quite pagan, and I don’t mean in the neo-pagan crystals and herbal tea sense (I prefer my tea caffeinated, as God intended), but in the old style “sacrifice children to appease the wrathful supernatural” sense.

It’s basically a modern retelling of the Norse myth of Balder. The premise is that when all the immigrants from the Old World came to America, they brought their old gods with them – Odin, Czernbog, Anasasi, and all the rest. Except as the immigrants gradually became American, they started worshiping the new gods of America – radio, television, trains, technology, money, and so forth. So the old gods linger on, scraping out an existence as best they can – Odin becomes a con artist, Thoth an undertaker, Eostre a maker of candied eggs, and so forth.

It’s interesting because Gaiman is British, and the book is an outsider’s look at the American immigrant experience, and it’s not a stretch to say that America worships Sex and Money most zealously. But I don’t think it’d be your (to continue the metaphor) cup of tea -it’s very graphic, and there is an overabundance of weird sex.

The pseudo-sequel, ANASASI BOYS, is much lighter in tone, and extremely funny.

Septuagint writes:

I really like THE THIRD SOUL series and wanted to read more, but there isn’t any. Are you going to write more of it?

THE THIRD SOUL was an experiment in doing a serialized novel, and it turned out pretty well. At some point, I will combine the four parts together (THE TESTING, THE ASSASSINS, THE BLOOD SHAMAN, and THE HIGH DEMON) and sell it as an omnibus edition. I do have an idea for another novel in the series – TOMBS OF THE OLD EMPIRE. But I’m going to spend the rest of 2012 doing DEMONSOULED and THE GHOSTS books, so I don’t think I’ll get to it until 2013.

AlduinEaterOfWorlds writes:

hey do 1 star reviews bother you?

No. People are entitled to put their opinions on the Internet. (This is in fact the foundation of my writing business model.)

Tip for writer- never, ever respond to a bad review. Not ever. Not for any reason. It can turn into an Internet pile-on faster than you can imagine.

If you feel the urge to do so, locate a hammer and hit yourself briskly on the forehead repeatedly. Eventually you will pass out, which will prevent you from responding to a bad review. A mild concussion is preferable to responding to a bad review – the concussion will eventually heal, but an Internet pile-on will stay on the Internet forever.

-JM

3 thoughts on “Reader Question Day #17 – American Gods, THE THIRD SOUL, and worldbuilding

  • “I may have to think on that…”
    😀

    “and there is an overabundance of weird sex.”
    Aren’t alot of Gaiman books like that? 😉
    Thanks for the heads up about American Gods, from the way you decribed it, I don’t think it would be my cup of tea. Then again it’s by Gaiman, not to sure I want to check out anything of his since his work on Beowulf (the 2007 CGI film), my god he butchered that story so, so bad. It was like an anti-Beowulf take on the story. It’s odd, when I first saw the film I enjoyed it, but that was before I had read Beowulf, before I knew anything about it…then I read the old epic, now I have really mixed feelings on the film. 🙁
    I do enjoy those old norse epics, are you aware of any recent fantasy books out there that deal with them? The only stuff I’m aware of are a no-go for me. If I want to read about vikings, I want the real vikings, not the fake neopagan “we’re all peaceful farmers who love nature” crap! The real norse were quite a violent people, not without any goodness in them of course, but it’s silly to pretend they were icelandic hippies as some try to make them out to be.

    As per AlduinEaterOfWorlds’ (hmm, seems someone has been playing Skyrim!) comments and your responses, I have not seen many of them (then again I’m not looking), but there was a pile-on back in November, the guy who wrote that Star Wars Old Republic book, Revan, lashed out at all the bad fan reviews he was getting, lets just say the fans were none too happy…
    You seem to be well aware of this stuff, it makes me wonder did it ever happen to you?
    And as per your reviews Jon, you don’t need to worry, you usually get good reviews! In all honesty, the only negative comments I have seen was essentially directed at your editing, not in the sense of story, but grammatical errors. Other than that, most reviewers seem happy with your work.

    Also: I’m glad to see you will might continue the Third soul series! I liked it, though it was way too short!

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    • jmoellerwriter

      “I do enjoy those old norse epics, are you aware of any recent fantasy books out there that deal with them?”

      You might try Glen Cook’s “Instrumentalities of the Night” series. Though he doesn’t take a favorable view of them, really.

      “You seem to be well aware of this stuff, it makes me wonder did it ever happen to you?”

      No. But I’ve seen enough writers melt down over bad reviews to know what to avoid.

      “I’m glad to see you will might continue the Third soul series! I liked it, though it was way too short!”

      Thanks! I’d very much like to do more with both the world & the characters in that setting.

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  • “You might try Glen Cook’s…”
    Not sure that would be my cup of tea either…in fact anything by Glen Cook may not be my cup of tea if my brief research on him was accurate.
    “Though he doesn’t take a favorable view of them, really.”
    If the summary of the books are accurate, it does not look like he takes much of a favorable view of anybody.

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